Newsline No 24
75th Inf Div newsline No.
24
15 Nov 1998
American Red Cross - "Come and get it"
(from the Book "Pictorial History of the 75th Inf Div" 1946)
Hello veterans and friends of the 75th Division !
Veterans day is over, but I have found some information regarding this day.
Im am especially great, that two vets were getting together again after more
that 50 years: One is a former POW from Germany, the other is a 75th Vet.
Please see the message below that his son has send. You should also read the
website on our homepage
www.mknet.de/75th
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Datum: Mon, 09 Nov 98 13:57:05 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Graber"
subject: Brandt/Graber Reunion: News Article
Rolf, today on www.timesunion.com, you will see a newspaper article about
my father's trip to Germany. It appeared in Sunday's newspaper (11/9/98)
in my local newspaper: The Times Union.
Steve
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Regarding Reunion:
We have no e-mail contact anymore to James Roxburgh, Historian. Does
somebody has his new emial adress ?
What about a 75th flag ? Somebody has an adress to buy it ?
Stay healthy !
Rolf G. Wilmink
"German by birth, american by heart, P.I. by profession".
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For your calendar:
Next 75th N.E.C. meeting: May 12-16 1999
Shoneyīs Inn
2420 Music Valley Drive
Nashville, Tennessee 37214
615-885-4030
Rates: $ 72.00 Single or Double + 8,25% sales tax and 4% room tax.
Events: Boat for Dinner
Grand Ole Opry
Next 75th Div reunion: Houston, Texas, 1999
75th Div reunion year 2000: Peoria
(more infos as soon as we have them or contact the
75th Div Vets. Assn. President Parker, see adress below).
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List of contents:
1.) Feedback regarding newsline No. 23 ( 05 Nov. 1998 )
2.) News from the "Bulgebusters".
3.) Where is Camp Chicago ?
4.) 75th photos in the Internet
5.) Veterans day, 11 November
6.) DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER
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1.) Feedback regarding our newsline No. 23 ( 05 November 1998):
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 05:55:17 -0500
From: Dan Shine
subject: 75th Inf. Div. Newsletter for Veterans Day
Rolf,
It was certainly a pleasure to see my father's stories featured in your
Veterans Day issue! Even as you had mixed feelings reading them, believe
me, I had mixed feelings sending them. But as you have observed, the world
is growing smaller all the time, and if we take the time to get to know
our neighbors overseas, perhaps wars will someday become unnecessary. As
the holiday season approaches, this is certainly something to hope for.
These stories were originally written for the benefit of Bob Shine's
children and grandchildren, who had never heard the details of his time
in combat. I am so pleased to be able to share them with other members
of the 75th; thank you for making this possible.
Dad's stories, of course, are filled with fifty-four year old memories. If
you or one of your readers spots some technical error, I'd appreciate
having it brought to my attention, so that it might be corrected. Just
two days ago it was brought to light that Captain Applegate, mentioned
in "Bronze Star", might actually have been one of his lieutenants. Once
I get the correct details, I'll amend the story.
What I've sent are the first three of four planned stories. Dad and I are
presently working on the fourth installment, which will detail the battle
for central Europe. I hope to be able to send that to you this winter.
Again, many thanks Rolf for your your assistance. I'm sure we'll be in
touch again soon!
Warmest Regards,
Dan Shine
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:48:23 -0800
From: Rik Peirson
subject: Happy Veterans Day!
Rolf --
Happy Vet's Day, as you deserve this wish as much as my Dad and all the
men of the 75th who helped make life as we know it possible. Thank you!
Best --
-- Rik Peirson
son of 1LT John Peirson
KIA 12/25/44 near Bastogne
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From: "Sharon Sorg"
company: Tompkins County
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:05:46 -0500
subject: historical us footage 1945
Dear Mr. Wilmink,
I am interested in obtaining any footage available on the 289th Regiment,
75th division of the US infantry in WWII. Please send me information on
purchasing. My e-mail address is:
ssorg@tompkins-co.org.
Thankyou,
Sharon Sorg
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Dear Sharon,
I just recieved a question similar to yours, but regarding another unit.
Please read the following newsline, which contains all informations.
I also include you as a free member in our newsline, so you will recieve
all infos regarding the 75th. If you are searching for more informations
or special persons, dont hesitate to post a message in the newsline, its
also free.
Greetings from Germany
Rolf G. Wilmink
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From: "Louise F. Perkins"
subject: E-Mail Problem solved
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:40:50 -0800
Greetings from the Sierra Chateau:
I've solved most of the problems relating to receiving the Newsline, other
than just the heading. There is nothing wrong with the computer, it happens
to be the server and the fact that the software I am using (windows 95)
automatically brings MSN. Most all regular e-mail messages are no problem
using MSN. However, I have the option of choosing a few other search engines.
Infoseek was used to retrieve the "newsline". In newsline #20 it appears
that Robert Smith has had a similar problem. I suggest he should try another
search engine for this service, e.g. AOL, Infoseek or Yahoo.
Regards,
Reg Perkins
Foresthill, CA. USA
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2.) News from the "Bulgebusters".
(The Bulgebusters is the printed newsletter of the 75th Div Vets Assn. You
will recieve it if you are a member. Please contact the President, see
adress below. It is very interesting and also contains photos. If you post
a message there, you will reach all members of the Assn, not only the
email-experts like you here. They also sell rosters for $5.00, (each name
with adress and unit, excellent for your research for buddies), caps for
$ 11.00 and Pins for $3.00) At the reunions, you will meet a lot of buddies
and have a lot of fun. I have been at the one in Atlanta 95, met great
people. Your membership will be worth every dime.)
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The Spokane Reunion Book will be in colour. It has been proofed and returned
for publishing. If you did not order and want one, send a check for $23.00
to
Reunions, Inc.
2098 Apopka, FL 32703
They are scheduled for mailing in December.
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Jim (secretary of 75th Div Vets),
hereīs an intersting event you may want to put in the Bulgebusters. Back
i Dec 1944, the "Abel" Co-289 Infantry Reg had its first casualty from the
Germans in the Ardennes "Battle of the Bulge". His name is William
Brooks-Staff Sgt. He took about 3 bullets from a "Burp Gun"-I was the medic
nearby that crawled over to him to administer first aid. I poured sulfa
powder on the wounds along with band-aids and a morophine shot.
Now William Brooks originally came from Shenendoah, PA and came to the 75th
Div April 1943 from the 101st Airbourne where he had recieved a broken leg
from a training jump. He ended up as a career military man achieving the
rank of full bird Colonel. He went on to the Korea war where he again was
wounded.
Back to teh 1943 at Fort Leonard Wood the "Able" Co guys used to kid me for
not carrying a weapon. Bill Brooks used to comment "Iīll take a Medic
anytime for a fox hole buddy". So thatīs how it ended.
We got together for luch last June ī98 nearly 54 years later and really
hashed over old military stories.
Walter L. Andrews
289th Medic
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Itīs The Soldier !
When the Country has been in need, it has always been the soldier ! Itīs the
soldier, not the newspaper, which has given us freedom of the press. Itīs
the soldier, who has given us freedom of speech. Itīs the soldier, not the
campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. Itīs the
soldier, who salutes the flag, and serves under the flag. Itīs the soldier
whose coffin is draped with the flag, who allows the protester to burn the
flag. And, itīs the soldier who is called upon to, defend our way to life!
- unknown.
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HELP !
Bob Havens, C-291 at 3020 E.Main St. E-34, Mesa, AZ 85213 would like to
purchase a copy of the 289th and 290th regimental combat diaries.
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From the Historian
Dear Fellow Warriors,
First Jim Thanks for including my letter of clarification on the History
book in the september BB.
Since there are NO written guide lines on the Turner History Book, Iīm
asking for some input from YOU ALL. For example Iīd like to include an
"Honor Roll" in said publication. I need the names of the 900 plus men that
were killed or died of wounds in our Division, a good photo of Gazebo with
some info on this project.
Various units have erected monuments and/or plaques in Europe and I donīt
think itīs possible to include all of them BUT there are TWO that I think
should be included-that is-the plaque at Fort Leonard Wood, MO and the
time our 75th Div Colours were presented at the Unknown Soldierīs tomb
in DC.
Bill Schiller of Turner Publishers also needs ACTION Battle PHOTOīs for
the book. Any help will be welcomed.
Jimīs article on Houston Update for 1999 Sept 8 thru 12th sounds GREAT.
Estelle & I are find and hope and pray that all of You and Yours are also
A-OK.
George Tachuk, Historian
19892 Hilliard Blvd
Rocky River, OH 44116-2556
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Thank you to everyone
Dear Jim,
I have recieved a copy of the "Bulgebusters" at my home and at the unit.
Thanks for the copies. CSM Kraus ad I have both enjoyed being with you
and the others in Houston. That was some party. Iīm glad yīall picked
the Sheraton Hotel. It is close to the 75th Division (Exercise) and I think
it will make it easy for those that want to come by the unit.
The CSM and I had a great time in Spokane meeting all of your members.
Everyone made us feel welcome and wanted and we both especially proud that
you made us honorary mebers. It is really great to meet the people that
"started it all" and we look forward to seeing everyone come to Houston.
The commanding general is putting together a task force to make sure the
75th Veterans visit to Houston will be memorable and fun.
Larry B. Boyd
MAJ, USAR
Public Affairs Officer
75th Exercise Group
++ Moderatorīs note: ++
Maj Boyd is a member of this list. If you have a question regarding the
actual 75th Div or the 75th Div museum, both in Houston, TX, send me an
email, I will be happy to forward it to him. ++
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3.) Where is Camp Chicago ?
From Normk2@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:10:31 EST
During a recent visit to France I attempted to visit the site of Camp
Chicago but couldn't find it. Can you tell me where it is located.
Thanks,
Norman Kutner
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4.) 75th photos in the Internet
From: Eric Heijink
subject: 75th Inf Div newsline no. 23 (5 Oct 98)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:07:48 -0600
Hello Rolf,
While surfing the internet I found two pictures of the 75th Division in WW2.
I don't know if these are pictures that you are already familiar with, so
I'll give you the adress just in case.
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/cgi-bin/usamhi/pixdata/presentpix?pic=/Medium-Resolution/scenes/ww2/helmet.jpg
This picture has the following description:
"S/Sgt. Minicozzi,Jessup, Pa. and Pfc. Andy Masiero, Newburg, NY, both of
First Battalion, 290th Infantry,75th Division, examine helmet and liner
pierced by an enemy bullet."
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/cgi-bin/usamhi/pixdata/presentpix?pic=/Medium-Resolution/scenes/ww2/swpsnow.jpg
This picture has the following description:
"Engineers of the 75th Div., Co. C, 275th Engineers, sweep a snow covered
road for enemy mines."
Best wishes,
Eric Heijink
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5.) Veterans day, 11 November
From: Tim Johnson
WHAT IS A VET?
Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb, a jagged
scar, a certain look in the eye.
Others may carry the evidence inside them: a pin holding a bone together,
a piece of shrapnel in the leg - or perhaps another sort of inner steel:
the soul's ally forged in the refinery of adversity.
Except in parades, however, the men and women who have kept America safe
wear no badge or emblem.
You can't tell a vet just by looking.
What is a vet?
He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia sweating
two gallons a day making sure the armored personnel carriers didn't run
out of fuel.
He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks, whose
overgrown frat-boy behavior is outweighed a million times in the cosmic
scales by four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel.
She - or he - is the nurse who fought against futility and went to sleep
sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang.
He is the POW who went away one person and came back another - or didn't
come back AT ALL.
He is the TRADOC drill instructor who has never seen combat - but has
saved countless lives by turning slouchy, no-account rednecks and gang
members into soldiers, and teaching them to watch each other's backs.
He is the parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons and medals
with a prosthetic hand.
He is the career logistician who watches the ribbons and medals pass him by.
He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns, whose
presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever preserve the
memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies unrecognized with
them on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless deep.
He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - palsied now and
aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a Nazi death camp and who wishes
all day long that his wife were still alive to hold him when the nightmares
come.
He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being - a person who
offered some of his life's most vital years in the service of his country,
and who sacrificed his ambitions so others would not have to sacrifice
theirs.
He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, and he is
nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on behalf of the finest,
greatest nation ever known.
So remember, each time you see someone who has served our country, just
lean over and say Thank You. That's all most people need, and in most
cases it will mean more than any medals they could have been awarded or
were awarded.
Two little words that mean a lot, "THANK YOU".
It is the soldier, not the reporter,
Who has given us freedom of the press.
It is the soldier, not the poet,
Who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the soldier, not the campus organizer,
Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.
It is the soldier,
Who salutes the flag,
Who serves beneath the flag,
And whose coffin is draped by the flag,
Who permits the protestor to burn the flag."
-- Father Denis Edward O'Brien, USMC
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Don't look back. Something may be gaining on you.
Satchel Paige
Tim Johnson
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(602)786-0909
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6.) DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER
From: SendMeHack@aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:17:05 EST
************************ DEFENDING AMERICA ********************
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LEST WE FORGET THOSE WHO EARNED IT
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By David H. Hackworth, 10 November 1998
Especially at this time of the year -- around Veteran's Day the guys who
didn't make it back are on my mind. These are the haunting last words of
soldiers who died in battle:
"No sweat, sir. You can count on me. We'll stop them."
Sp4 James K.Stoddard as he lay bleeding his life out, 26 February 1968.
" I'm sorry I won't be able to help you any more today. I'm gut shot. Hang
on and good luck." Radio message from a chopper, 27 February 1968.
"I'm okay. Just get us more ammo." Sergeant Jimmy Mayamura while continuing
to man his machine gun even though one of his eyes was torn out and
he'd been hit three other times by bullets and grenade fragments,
4 November 1951.
"I'm dying, ain't I Sarge, I'm dying, ain't I Sarge?" Sp5 Paul Sperry,
17 September 1962.
"We need a medevac bad, three soldiers are hurt bad by a mine. My legs are
blown off. Tell them to hurry!" 1st LT Charles Hemingway, 9 June 1967.
"I know, I'll be careful, but they need this machine gun up front."
1st LT Bob Arvin, 5 September 1967.
"I can see you, you are coming up on our left. Be careful, they have
a 57MM recoilless in the brown building." Captain Terry Sage, killed by
57MM recoilless fire - 2 February 1968.
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Off today to meet with my pals from the past. BOB - BAND OF BROTHERS - has
over 500 members and we meet somewhere in the USA once a year. This year
it's Orlando. Members range from WWII to Vietnam Vets and all parts in
between. Most of us served together at one place or another, and then
there are a few buddies from the more recent past. There are guys where
I was their squad leader, platoon sergeant/platoon leader, Company and
Battalion CO or they were mine. Buddies from advisory tours in Vietnam to
peacetime assignment in Germany and the States. Their ages run from 46
to 80. The common thread that holds us together is love and respect for
one another.
BOB is a very unique group of Vets and since we're not into chest beating,
war stories and beribboned hats, you'd think at first glance we were some
sort of business or leisure group.
One of our readers, a Chief of Police, reminded me of Colonel Johns'
leadership notes that are in ABOUT FACE and suggested that they be published
here. He said he followed them closely and holds them responsible for
zooming him to the top his profession way ahead of his contemporaries.
Johns was one of the finest skippers I ever served with. The reason he
didn't go to stars is probably that he loved his men too much and thus
fought and lost too many hard battles with the Courtney Massengales of
this world (See ONCE AN EAGLE). He checked out of the net in 1980. But
his good wife Rita Johns, a gracious lady, attends every BOB reunion.
When he left our fine Battle Group, he didn't rave to us about what a
great job he did, he gave us a final class on leadership WHICH REALLY
TOLD ME WHAT HE WAS ABOUT. Here's what he had to say:
*Strive to do small things well.
*Be a doer and a self-starter - aggressiveness and initiative are two most
admired qualities in a leader - but you must also put your feet up and think.
*Strive for self-improvement through constant self-evaluation.
*Never be satisfied. Ask of any project, How can it be done better?
*Don't over-inspect or over-supervise. Allow your leaders to make mistakes
in training, so they can profit from the errors and not make them in combat.
*Keep the troops informed; telling them "what, how, and why" builds their
confidence.
*The harder the training, the more troops will brag.
*Enthusiasm, fairness, and moral and physical courage - four of the most
important aspects of leadership.
*Showmanship - a vital technique of leadership.
*The ability to speak well and write well - two essential tools of leadership.
*There is a salient difference between profanity and obscenity; while
a leader employs profanity (tempered with discretion), he never uses
obscenities.
*Have consideration for others.
*Yelling detracts from your dignity; take men aside to counsel them.
*Understand and use judgment; know when to stop fighting for something
you believe is right. *Discuss and argue your point of view until a decision
is made, and then support the decision wholeheartedly.
*Stay ahead of your boss.
Have a good week.
Keep five yards. *
Hack
*Means spread out so one round won't get us all.
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A VETERANS DAY HOLIDAY ONLY FOR VETS
Veterans Day has become just another holiday for most Americans, and little
is done to "honor" vets. Its time to make Veterans Day meaningful by
limiting this federal holiday only to current and former military
servicemen. Why should our government provide a paid "Veterans Day" holiday
to people who never served in our military?
There are millions of honorably discharged vets who must work on Veterans
Day in the private sector, and millions of others with no jobs at all.
Our government gives nothing to these vets, but draft dodgers and
dishonorably discharged vets who work for the federal government get a paid
day off. Why should Veterans Administration offices with a backlog of
work close on this day to "honor" vets by going fishing. In addition,
servicemen cannot go to the exchange, commissary, or bank on "Veterans Day"
because employees who never served are home watching TV.
We already have a federal holiday in November, and limiting this holiday
to veterans will save our nation over a billion dollars a year.
Ideally, states and private business will follow this example. It will
become common in America for someone to ask, "Where's John today?", and
for someone to respond "He's got the day off, he's a vet". Serving in our
military will finally mean something to most civilians.
This idea is extremely popular with veterans, for whom Veterans day was
established. Cutting out an official federal holiday will also be supported
by the great majority of taxpayers who do not get this paid day off.
Hopefully, Congress will make a meaningful show of support for America's
military veterans by limiting this federal holiday to military personnel
and honorably discharged veterans.
Carlton Meyer
(cmeyergo@yahoo.com)
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/6747
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*** ON THE LIGHTER SIDE ***
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An Air Force pilot is sitting in a Navy Officers Club drunk, and he asks
two tail hook aviators, one a Marine and the other Navy where the bathroom's
at.
The Marine Aviator says, "go down the hall and make a right." The Navy
Aviator says, "The sign on the door says Men's Head." So, off the zoomie
goes. Well, all of the sudden, everybody in the bar hears this loud scream
and wonders what is going on in the bathroom.
A few minutes go by and again , everybody at the bar hears another loud
scream coming out of the bathroom. This time the two intrepid carrier
pilots go into the bathroom to investigate what the drunk is screaming
about. They open the door and ask the drunk, "What's all the screaming
about in here? You are scaring all broads away."
The drunk F-15 pilot says, "I'm sitting on the toilet and every time I go
to flush it, something comes up and squeezes the hell out of my balls."
With that, the Marine Aviator opens up the door to the stall, looks in and
says, "No wonder, you're sitting on a mop bucket." To which the Navy
Aviatorretorts, "Flare to land, squat to pee!"
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ADMIN NOTES:
Wishing one and all a Happy and Healthy Veterans Day and a Happy Birthday
to
a Soldier!
If any of you have something to Sound Off about, please drop us a line.
Bob McMahon. Editor
rlmcmahon@mindspring.com
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ARCHIVED DEFENDING AMERICA COLUMNS
You can now find copies of Hack's previous columns at:
http://www.hackworth.com. These are found in the Defending America Section,
under Archived Copies.
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GLOSSARY OF MILITARY ACRONYMS:
Hack has had numerous requests from troops in different branches of the
military to establish this link so that we will all know how "all you
others" talk that talk. Please see below:
http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/doddict/acronym_index.html
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CONGRESSIONAL E-MAIL ADDRESSES
Congressional e-mail addresses can be found by going to (www.hackworth.com)
and accessing Congressional e-mails at the bottom of the first page.
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The SFTT website: www.sftt.org is open for business. Have a look.
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........your feedback to this newsline !!!!
Greetings from Germany
Rolf G. Wilmink
75th Inf Div WWII Veterans Association Unofficial homepage
www.mknet.de/75th
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